testimony of John Ely
|#2: Agnes Whitingdon c.  John Ely  - Response of Defendant, 1487-01-29|
|source||London Metropolitan Archives, MS DL/C/A/001/MS09065, 10r|
|summary||Responds that he was unwilling to contract marriage with Agnes Whitingdon, as he told her, unless her father agreed by 1 November to give a dowry of 5 marks with her. Also, responds that the set of coral rosary beads Whitingdon had from him following this conversation was a loan.|
|english translation||latin text|
|In Hillary term, A.D. 1486 |
Examinations in the London Consistory
Dominical letter G and the third year of the pontificate of Pope Innocent VIII, fifth indiction 
Examination made on behalf of Agnes Whitingdon c. John Ely
Responses personally made by John Ely, 29 January
John Ely, sworn etc. concerning the positions etc. To the first article, he believes its contents to be true. To the second article of the libel , he says that he does not believe its contents. He says that around the last feast of St. Michael the Archangel , a certain Hawkyn, master of Agnes, urged him to have Agnes as his wife, and this deponent said that he did not want to contract with Agnes without first knowing how much her friends were willing to give as her marriage portion. Then, after it was arranged that a certain man named Robert would ride to Agnes`s parents to find out how much they would give for her marriage portion, Agnes said that her father would be coming to London around the next feast of All Hallows . So this deponent undertook to wait until that feast and to give Agnes an answer then, and until that time he would not speak to her about any contract of marriage. And he said that he would have her as his wife if he could have with her five marks  by the upcoming feast of All Hallows. To the third article, he says that in relation to this conversation and after it, he lent to Agnes a set of coral rosary beads, and the other contents of the article he does not believe. To the fourth charge, he believes that the contents are true. To the fifth charge, he believes what is believed, does not believe what is not believed, and denies fame.
|De termino Hillarii Anno domini Millesimo CCCClxxxvito |
Examinaciones in Consistorio London
Littera dominicali G et anno tercio Innocencii pape viii, indiccione quinta
Examinacio facta pro parte Agnetis Whitingdon contra Johannem Ely
Responsiones personaliter facte per Johannem Ely, xxix die Januarii
Johannes Ely juratus et cetera super posicionibus et cetera. Ad primum articulum, credit contenta in eodem esse vera. Ad secundum articulum dicti libelli, dicit et non credit contenta in eodem. Dicit quod circiter festum sancti Michaelis archangeli ultimum, quidam Haukyn, magister dicti Agnetis, instetit penes istum juratum ad habendum dictam Agnetem in eius uxorem, et iste juratus dixit quod noluit cum ea contrahere nisi prius sciret quantum amici dicte Agnetis vellent dare ad eius maritagium, et tandem postquam [?commisum] fuit quod quidam Robertus equitaret ad eiusdem Agnetis parentos ad sciendum quantum dare vellent ad eius maritagium, dicta Agnes dixit quod eius pater adventurus erit Civitatem London circiter festum omnium sanctorum extunc proximum sequens et iste juratus concessit quod vellet expectare usque idem festum et tunc dare dicte Agneti responsum et citra non communicavit cum ea de aliquo matrimonio contrahendo. Et dixit quod voluit habere eam in uxorem casu quo poterat habere cum ea quinque marcas citra festum omnium sanctorum extunc proximum sequens. Ad iii articulum, dicit quod super communicacione huiusmodi et post ipsam iste juratus prestitit dicte Agneti unum par precularum coralli et alia contenta in eodem non credit. Ad iiiitam posicionem, credit contenta in eadem esse vera. Ad quintam posicionem, credit credita et non credit non credita et famam negat.
| For dominical letters and indictions, see C. R. Cheney, Handbook of Chronology, 2-3, 8-9. Innocent VIII was pope from 1484 to 1492.|
 A libel (in Latin libellus, little book) was the statement of claim submitted by the plaintiff (OED, s.v. libel, 3b).
 29 Sept.
 1 Nov.
 A mark was worth two-thirds of a pound sterling, or 13s 4d.